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Old 22-04-10, 06:54 PM
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Default Employee full-time or part-time?

I popped this on Kip's plugged.it as well. Be interested to hear what you come back with. My opinion...but don't tell anyone...shhhh, is many full-time positions are taking the rise, they really should be part-time. One employee today actually said "b0ll0cks mate, 50/50 is fair I reckon. I get £8 an hour which is slave labour. So I do all of me biz at work...you know, the bay and F-book, twitter and the like...yeah?"

And so...my thoughts of today. To be sure, this has been on my mind a heck of a long time now. I'm not trying to put peeps out of work either, for cripes sake what are we here for otherwise? Silver spoon in gob notwithstanding of course. And the story goes...

I went to see a client last week...potential client at that stage. Have just been through his accounts and picked up several contractors fleecing him out of thousands. The Client is certainly buoyant across the pre-tax bottom line and is busy but not sufficiently to employ a dedicated person to look after his interests.

Hence, how I come into the fray! Anyway, as well as duplicate invoices and contractors ripping him off left right and centre, it would appear the landlord also of his commercial premises is having a larf. Thus far over a three year period using RICS guidelines as a starting point, I have found 'around,' £26,000 being a fair proportion of overcharge on fees and service charges...all pretty much indisputable.

Now I get 15% of recoverable charges as a fee so quite happy. Anyway....do stay with me it gets better and actually this is what I want to share with you all. He is so ****-a-hoop he asks me to play time and motion study man on his operatives. Today then was the first day of many. No-one has a clue what I am doing; they believe it be a Health & Safety audit (my core skill, well one of several I guess...you know, university of life and all that.)

So...and I am getting to a much bigger picture...or is it concern here? The first day comes and goes and Be-Jesus, what a feckin joke. Between eBay, face book and twitter...and webmail etc, the staff are having a larf. Thus far...again, with Deerstalker and pipe at the ready, my initial feeling is that the current staffing level of seventeen administrative, could be culled to ten, and that is being generous.

Here then comes the biggy. HONESTLY...and please, I mean it. Are there really any genuine full time positions left anymore? OK retail, nursing, care, etc notwithstanding, but administrative??? PLEASE! I have seen so many now it is becoming a bl00dy joke! In this particular organisation, he is so top heavy it is laughable...and that is after just one day.

So as I said, HONESTLY now, how much do YOU really do as an employee? If your contract is 39 hours say, how many for them and how many for thee? Be honest, I won’t tell. Do you see what I am getting at? Does an employed administrative position really mean full time anymore? I think not.

Just one client, just one day...I have saved (or will have by the time I finish) him tens of thousands. One wonders how many others are in the same merry-go-round situation. Are jobs really full-time? Nah...methinks not:-)

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Old 22-04-10, 07:04 PM
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I have had this discussion with my wife over this last 2 weeks, the facts are Mike most people just turn up and take the money.

I work for a large drywall company that was loosing thousands a week, I pointed this out to them and how they could stop it and they did nothing to take my advice, then every month the bulldog office admin would present me with a mobile invoice and ask me to mark which calls where personal ( I had my on mobile which I made personal phone calls) and I would say the same thing every month your chasing staff for £3.50 in calls but you are loosing £50k a month by not listening.

She would reply "look after the pennies and the pounds would look after themselves" (what a muppet)

Company went bust at the start of the year!

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Old 22-04-10, 08:33 PM
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The bit that gets me is that positions which don't involve a desk, chair, and computer access, DO involve constantly working, and generally pay LESS than £8 per hour. I'm thinking supermarket checkout cashiers, waiters and waitresses, factory-line work... it's part of the McDonalds' training materials, "if there's time to relax, there's time to Ajax."

Having loads of rotten employees doesn't mean there's a lack of work that needs doing. It means he's got the wrong employees.

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we used to employ about 8 people doing office partitioning, and uor system was to give everybody a share, more senior and more experienced meant more shares. so at the end of the week the invoice had a percentage taken off for business running costs and the shares were added up and divided into the remaining balance. so your wages would be eg 120 quid per share so if you got 5 shares you got 600 quid .
You would be supprised how hard people work and how well they all communicate if they think they will get more for doing it!!!
plus any body not pulling ther weight were soon spotted.
I think if you give people the oppotunity to be lazy lots will
Its a shame people dont realise that the harder you work for your company the more succesfull it will be.

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