Are you sick of highly paid teachers?

Are you sick of highly paid teachers? Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or 10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit! We can get that for less than minimum wage. That's right. Let's give them £5.93 an hour and only the hours they work; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school.

That would be £ 41.51 a day (8.30 am to 3:30 PM with 60 min. off for lunch and play -- that equals 7 1/2 hours). Each parent could pay £ 41.51 a day for these teachers to babysit their children. Now how many children do they teach in a day...32? So that's £ 41.51 x 32 = £ 1328.32 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any holidays . LET'S SEE.... That's £1328.32 X 180= £239,097.60 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).

What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage (£ 6.90), and just to be fair, round it off to £ 7.00 an hour. That would be £ 7.00 X 71/2 hours X 32 children X 180 days = £ 302,400.00 per year. Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here! There sure is! The average teacher's salary (nationwide) is £ 25,000.00/180 days = £ 138.90 per day/ 32 children = £ 4.34 / 7 1/2 hours = £ 0.58 per hour per student--a very inexpensive babysitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!)

WHAT A DEAL!!!!

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I am a school governor and my wife is a teacher and I take the Mick all year about her having 12 weeks a year off.

Could I do her job - no bloody way!

Like policemen, nurses, firemen, doctors pay them what they want I am happy to pay more tax for them.

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Not at all.

Teachers are important for our future.

Done properly they provide a fanatastic foundation for the rest of our children's lives.

For years the pay was shockingly bad but now it is good and so it should be.

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Good teachers are vital for the countries future. As already said they had a raw deal for years. I'm more concerned with red tape they have to deal with, lack of enforceable discipline, and lack of discipline by parents. Having aggressive teenagers to deal with who seem to hold all the power these days can't be fun

No doubt there are lazy teachers as with any job, but most do a thankless unenviable job IMHO.

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Coming from a long line of teachers, and my brother is a teacher - hmm where do i start

I too am a Governor at one of my local schools and have witnessed first hand the abuse and bad manners of a 4 year old spitting and calling his teacher a bitch ....

Nope i dont think teachers are over paid, they have little to no backing when things go wrong with discipline, personally i think more should be done discipline wise at home - if i discovered my boys had been swearing at a teacher id ground them for a month - no PS/ x-box!!!

Yep you can argue they get all the holidays off & then the good old fashioned Baker days,now called teacher training days but my brother goes in on everyone of those days and spends a good chunk of his school holidays preping the following terms work. He probably takes around 5 weeks off a year like the rest of the working population.

Now schools are told they cant discriminate against the disruptive members of the class and have to get specialist help in to do one ot one care with these pupils rather than shipping them off to somewhere else - all of this has to come from the schools budget.

I suggest if anyone thinks a teacher is overpaid, take a week off & go and volunteer as a teaching assistant - see how you get on.

Personally i havent got the patience to be a teacher , im happy to volunteer as a Governor, another thankless task ....

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Thank you for this post. For a while there, I thought you were serious about being 'sick of overpaid teachers' and was bracing for a debate. Thanks for putting it in proper perspective. It's an emotional issue for me because my mom was a teacher and my sister is currently teaching too, and I've seen the passion, sacrifice, and dedication they've put into their chosen vocation. If anything, teachers are underpaid and under-appreciated.

The teachers work more then "180 days a year".
In our (Russian) universities we write thousands course programs, research new methodics, and have a lot of science experiments

Actually, teachers do only teach 180 days a year. Normally there are around five training days that they have to work too.

I do not think teachers are over paid at all and I have seen the figures produced by the first poster before - you really do need to do the figures yourself!

It's also very unlikely that you will find 32 students in a class. A maximum of 30 in secondary school classes usually and that's for certain subjects. More dangerous subjects such as P.E. and technology often have lower numbers.

Primary schools have a maximum of 23 students per class, I think. That is also a law so if schools have more than that number, they must employ another teacher.

Are they paid too much? Well let's add in all the 'that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school' because actually this is quite important. Marking books and giving good feedback is essential to a student's development.

After school clubs is also crucial especially to those students who do not have parents at home to look after them from 3.30p.m. or come from a difficult background where school is the only place that they feel safe.

Personally, teachers are not paid enough however the real problem is that lots of teachers, especially in secondary education from my experience, are not qualified enough to do the job. I do not mean formally qualified but actually qualified with life skills.

They are often outcomes of a primary school to secondary school to college to university and back to school lifestyle. They have not lived and have little concept of how the world actually 'works'.

Personally I am annoyed at the ignorance of the first poster's message and think that perhaps instead of reading the Daily Mail, he should do his own research and for his own good... not use his company name in his posts when writing such blatant tosh!

Rant over

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Thank you for your detailed response to my post.

Let me explain: my previous post was not as serious as you thought.

As for my research, it has long been available. But it makes no sense to consider it in detail here, as well as it makes no sense to compare the British and the Russian system education.

I am a person who knows the Russian system of higher education for a long time, I want to say that the main criteria for choosing the teaching profession in Russia is not a financial factor .
So the debate, declared in the first message caused my smile. What I apologize if it offended anyone.

For a detailed answer thank you again. I learned a lot.

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