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Old 18-12-10, 04:47 PM
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I have foolishly agreed to knock up a wordpress site for my wifes netball team so they can keep track of results, training appointments etc.

Can anyone recomend a good WP hosting company.
We can provide hosting for you for £85.00 pa.

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Shop around bro, thats steep, very steep!

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Shop around bro, thats steep, very steep!
Not if you get seo and small business marketing support as an addon.

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Steep? - £7 a month...
Wow - you people want things for nothing!

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Old 18-12-10, 05:09 PM
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Steep? - £7 a month...
Wow - you people want things for nothing!
Agreed.
I lost a client a few months ago who acquired 'cheaper' hosting from a US server.
Then, because he was hosted on a server with a bunch of email spamming sites who sent out multitudes of emails, his server was blacklisted by certain agencies.
The result - he could not email many of his clients because the client's server refused email from his IP address.
Phoned me in desperation as he was losing a ton of business.

I have a dedicated server - with no spammers on it. Only legitimate other small businesses.
He could also talk to me, rather than deal through an email system.

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We have dedicated servers too but it only takes one of your clients with a pc that has a virus or spyware and it can easily then send out unsolicited email so being on a dedicated server with "nice" clients means nothing unless you have taken steps to implement greylisting, spamassassin, rbl etc

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We have dedicated servers too but it only takes one of your clients with a pc that has a virus or spyware and it can easily then send out unsolicited email so being on a dedicated server with "nice" clients means nothing unless you have taken steps to implement greylisting, spamassassin, rbl etc
Fair point. All I would add is that (generally) the problem comes from 'not nice' clients sending out such campaigns directly rather than the route you have suggested. And such clients usually choose cheap hosting packages !!!

Can I ask what 'rbl' is?

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RBL stands for Realtime Blackhole List, this is a term for DNS based systems designed to assist in the prevention of email abuse. The first such system was created by Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS) LLC who have been granted a Service Mark for the term. The generic name for wsuch services is DNSBL.

The DNSBL consists of a DNS based system containing lists of IP addresses whose owners refuse to stop the proliferation of spam whether this be by running their mail servers as open relays, or by allowing their dialup users free outbound access to port 25.

As subscribers to the DNSBL, ISPs and companies will know from which IP addresses to block traffic. Most traffic blocking occurs during the SMTP connection phase. The receiving end will check the DNSBL for the connecting IP address. If the IP address matches one on the list, then the connection gets dropped before accepting any traffic from the spammer.

Some ISPs, though, will choose to blackhole (or disallow) IP packets at their routers. The goal here is to block all IP traffic.


On your mail setup, you should be checking RBLs against the sending IP

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