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Old 08-12-10, 10:29 AM
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Can someone please clarify for me, we don't or can't charge Vat to Non EU clients, right?

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Assume you are referring to web services.

It was explained to me in relation to our online services a while ago, as long as your client isn't based in the UK, or has a UK office, then you don't charge UK VAT. I assume the same goes for the EU.

Even if your client is using the product to advertise/market within the UK, and is utilising hosting equipment/servers in the UK.
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I am not referring to web services. We would be providing mainly IT services and some hosted services to the client. I always assumed you can't charge Vat to those other parts of the world.
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If the Clients outside the EU, with no UK presence, then no VAT.
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That's the thing. They have a UK presence. But what I undertsand we would be provding support and the billing will also be from the Non EU country.
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I'd get it from the horses mouth and phone the VAT helpline 0845 010 9000
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Do you have to be stupid to work in a call centre or something ...called HMRC, no one can answer my question...they asked me to download a think manual.
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Good morning, Ryan.

VAT is very complex, and to make it worse, they keep changing the rules. It's all about the "place of service"

This post may help you:

"You are right. The rules changed in January 2010 and this section applies to your situation:

2.2 What does 'place of supply' mean for UK suppliers?

If the place of supply of your services is the UK, you must charge any UK VAT due and account for it to HMRC regardless of where your customer belongs. If the place of supply of your services is another Member State, you or your customer may be liable to account for any VAT due to the tax authorities of that country. See paragraph 2.16.

Where the place of supply of your services is outside the UK, you should ensure that your records contain sufficient factual evidence that this is the case. See paragraph 2.7.

HM Revenue & Customs"
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Hi.

Just came across your question.

Simply VAT is a tax charged on goods within the EU. If you export goods outside the EU you don't charge VAT and can zero rate the sale.

There are a number of rules you need to follow.

Check out section 3.4 of HMRC Reference:Notice 703

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

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